Air Jordan 4 Black/Red Retro Comparison
Posted by Matt Halfhill | Jul 15, 2008 This weekend the Black/Red Air Jordan 4 returns for the first time in almost a decade. The last time this shoe released was when it was the first retro released after Jordan’s second departure from the NBA. Though many heads are amped for the long awaited return of the shoe, there are many who are not pleased with the changes made to the shoes.
We sat down with both the ‘99 and the ‘08 retros to get some good comparison shots so that you can see for yourself and decide if the changes are enough to pass on a classic. The most noticeable difference between the shoes was the back tab with a Jumpman rather than the Nike Air logo. Other differences we noticed were the netting on the side and tongue, lace piece at toe, the tongue, and a few color differences. The Air Jordan 4 Black/Red will release in the Jordan 4/19 Countdown Package Saturday, July 19th officially; however, many stores have started selling them early in-store and on eBay. |
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red Retro Comparison - ‘99 Retro left, ‘08 Retro right
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 1999 Retro
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 2008 Retro
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red Retro Comparison - ‘99 Retro front, ‘08 Retro back
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 1999 Retro
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 2008 Retro
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red Retro Comparison - ‘99 Retro front, ‘08 Retro back
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 1999 Retro - Back
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 2008 Retro - Back
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red Retro Comparison - ‘99 Retro top, ‘08 Retro bottom
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 1999 Retro - Sole
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 2008 Retro - Sole
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red Retro Comparison - ‘08 Retro left, ‘99 Retro right
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red Retro Tongue Comparison - ‘08 Retro left, ‘99 Retro right
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 1999 Retro - Side netting
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 2008 Retro - Side netting
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 1999 Retro - Front Lace tab
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 2008 Retro - Front Lace tab
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 1999 Retro
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red 2008 Retro
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red
Feb 16, 2009 at 7:17 am
After owning the ’99’s I couldnt wear these anymore I missed the Nike Air Logo sign to me it is what probably what made it so popular. SO i sold em for $200.
Dec 14, 2008 at 8:46 pm
hey, the tip of the shoe tongue is different!!!
i just noticed that!
Dec 14, 2008 at 8:45 pm
hey, the tip of the shoe tongue is different!!
Aug 17, 2008 at 7:39 pm
the 99 retro our dead stock but they still look pimpin.the retro our raw as hell
Jul 24, 2008 at 8:08 pm
i copped mine on saturday, and yes even tho they dont got the nike air on the back and do got some minimal changes, i am not disappointed at all, these kicks deff are fire, and i thought i wasnt gonna like the twentys but ima also have to say jb didnt do a bad job i was thinkin of getting rid of em but after seeing them in person i had a change of heart, ima have to give this pack a two thumbs up
Jul 23, 2008 at 6:03 pm
suck ass
Jul 23, 2008 at 6:02 pm
ur shoes sick ass
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:11 pm
THE ONLY PACKS IM GETTING ARE THE X1 AND X11 FOR THE 11S AND THE V AND XVIII FOR THE 5S
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:21 pm
i really like but i can’t fine them in me size.5inahalf
Jul 21, 2008 at 8:36 pm
these kicksz ur hot ii wanna no iiF there 4 sale?? cuz”z iiL bye em’
Jul 18, 2008 at 8:03 pm
^^^^then y comment it n there hot n a very nice remake didnt change alot from the original witch was nice
Jul 18, 2008 at 6:21 pm
i lost interest in these 4’s a while ago
Jul 18, 2008 at 12:15 am
i’ve got the OG bred 4s but theyre too cracked to wear =[
the 08 retros look longer but i guess thats because theyre different sizes.
i migh pass on that pack anyway.
-NoHyPe23
Jul 17, 2008 at 7:07 pm
i went to a local spot and i saw them on display the 4s look a little cheap i was going to cop but iam going to pass 19s dont look bad my fav 4s are the millatary ones i could have copped the pack today at retail price $310.00
Jul 17, 2008 at 4:52 pm
I cosign #28. I’m only 19 and I’m a student too so I can’t throw $600 on some OG kicks but I still got heat in my collection.
Jul 17, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Extremely low quality on Nike’s behalf, what a shame…I like the IV’s and the colorway but this particular release of the shoe disappointing and is an embarrassment to american industry, in much the same way modern American automobiles became in the last 20 years. I wonder how does a company go from such a commitment to high standards and quality to something like this. Weak quality. Nike please stop playing, i know somebody in corporate has to be combing this…ridiculous
Jul 17, 2008 at 2:22 pm
I see the minor chnages in the retros. Being that I grew up on Jordans I wish the would stick to the original spec when they retro. I hate the Jumpman on the back of the IV’s but it is Jordan brand now. Just makes the shoe look like it came from a flea market or bootlegger. But overall its still worthing of coping. Im gonna have to pass with on the package due to the economic state. But if I can find these solo They will be in my collection.
Jul 17, 2008 at 12:32 pm
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Jul 17, 2008 at 12:19 am
i missss my 99’s
i got rid of them yesterday =(
Jul 16, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Got the 99’s retro’s, and getting this one too.
Jul 16, 2008 at 10:22 pm
da 4s always get love in my book these and the sevens i cudd wear dem all da time
Jul 16, 2008 at 10:09 pm
you CAN’T beat the NIKE AIR 99′S.say what you want, it will never compare.
Jul 16, 2008 at 8:57 pm
screw me sideways but i think the “minor changes” took away from the overall shape of the shoe for me.
because i look at shoes almost from the aspect of art it was easy for me to say i could tell a noticeable difference between the two pairs. so personally i’d rather cop ’99s then find myself stuck with 19s
Jul 16, 2008 at 6:06 pm
One of my favorite part about the 4’s was the Nike Air on the back and they killed it off…
Jul 16, 2008 at 6:03 pm
i mean c,mon wat real differance can u tell besides the major one the NIKE AIR. of coarse OG is always going to look better but that was then, and this is now, so good job JB do wat u do. to all the big time collectors that have OGs and have been collecting for that long who are fortunate enough to have the 99 retros, good for you. but just cause you have them doues not mean you can judge bad for a jumpman logo in 08. so stop the hating and enjoy the classics being REBORN instead of hating on them.
Jul 16, 2008 at 6:00 pm
DAMN THESE R NICE BUT THE THING IS IM A SIZE 14 SO I DOUBT THEY WOULD HAVE THEM IN MY SIZE
Jul 16, 2008 at 4:18 pm
jordan put on weight on the tongue for the 08’s lol but they are both sick sneakers. i actually like the jumpmans on the back but the quality is cheap. i’m still buying it on the 19th.
Jul 16, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Theesee Are SICK ! cant we jst get the 4’s and not the 19’s ?
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Jul 16, 2008 at 2:00 pm
im definitely gettin dees junts but da only rreason im gettin dem is becuz of da 4’s but dem 19’s is garbo
Jul 16, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I got to get these
Jul 16, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Im definity copping cause I love the 4s and the color way is still hot…….
Jul 16, 2008 at 11:32 am
to reply to comment# 59 from Darneezy? ok you may have been right, the ‘99 retro’s may not have been fully hated on, i mighta went a little overboard with that one, wrong choice of words, but like commment #57, try to see what i’m saying (big ups BIGGINS!)…what i was tryna say was kinda like what comment #74 said which is FURTHER backed up by #79…HOWEVER, i will say #69 and #84 make good points as well…that’s how i’m gonna explain what i meant to say, but didn’t say the way i really wanted it to say? make sense? lol sorry for the misunderstanding! =)
Jul 16, 2008 at 10:32 am
Well they look more alike compared to the jordan 8 playoff retro and the og
Jul 16, 2008 at 10:00 am
All the retro IV’s have a toe that’s slightly flatter then the original. I know I’m gettin’ picky here, but the flat toe thing always bothered me. But don’t think I’m suggesting that these ain’t hot. Straight-up fire!
Jul 16, 2008 at 8:37 am
I think some points are being missed here. Its not as if those who are critical of the 08 retro DO NOT want to see Jordan Brand do well, or DO NOT anticipate on buying any more Nike or Jordan shoes based on these retro’s being released. If anything, its kind of a compliment in some ways to the brand when fans of these shoes are able to have in depth conversations about extremely subtle differences regarding shoes that are almost 10 years old.
I will say this. Like some of you on this posting, I have owned the OG, 99 and Current released IV. And the differences between the OG AND 99 are VERY, VERY minimal if ANY at all. You CANNOT say the same thing about the 2008 retro. Thats almost fact.
I love Air Jordans and the “jumpman” logo wont necessarily stop me from buying JB retros (although it has for a few)…but that doesnt mean I’ll covet them the way I do my 94/99/2000/2001 retros (1/II/III/IV/V/VI). You can call me a “hater” or what ever the hell else you want to, but I’d consider myself loyal to the brand, if anything.
Jul 16, 2008 at 8:30 am
It’s a cool shoe, but let’s face it…it’s the same shoe.
Jul 16, 2008 at 7:18 am
MAN I LOVE THE 4′S I GOT FO PAIR DIFF. COLORS MAN YALLNEED TO BRING OUT ALL THE 4′S COLORS B4 THE SUMMER’S OVA THOSE R SUMMER SHOES AND MY FAV. SHOES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHA I LUV IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 16, 2008 at 7:06 am
“What gets me it that the heel tab was specifically designed to have the NIKE AIR on it, that’s why its shaped that way. The jumpman with all that negative space just looks retarded.” - Nia
As much as I don’t care about the logo on the back, your point is 100% dead on. I have to agree with you that is what just doesnt look right with the Jordan 3 and Jordan 4 with a jumpman on the back compared to others because the TPU heel tab was designed with a larger logo to fit.
Jul 16, 2008 at 6:37 am
these shoes are a gift from above
Jul 16, 2008 at 2:47 am
Y hold the 99’s as if they are grails when they are retros, just like these. Neither can touch the OG’s, and when everyone’s 99 falls apart in a year or two they are gonna wish they picked these up and pay 4 bills
Jul 16, 2008 at 2:19 am
To add to the difference listed by kidxsole…
- Length of the ‘08 is longer than the ‘99 (sole wise)
- Height is shorter on the ‘08
- Heel tab goes up higher than the ‘99 (due to it’s actual height)
- Netting is horizontal, not angled
- Jumpman logo, stitched on the tongue is bigger on the ‘99 as well as there isn’t much of the underneath side (red) shown on the ‘99 vs. the ‘08
- Toe lace tab has changes
Still, all in all, I love the colorway, as many of us heads do, but there’s still a lot that differences with this shoe (no matter the subtleties) that will turn many off of with these.
Especially those with the ‘99 retro.
And even though I never owned the OG nor the ‘99 retro, wearing the Mars IV is VERY uncomfortable. The stitching from the netting on the toe, rubs against my foot. Meaning the she lacks in quality of production.
I still rock ‘em though; nevertheless.
Jul 16, 2008 at 1:53 am
Anyone have the inside on what time they drop online on the 19th on Finishline, Nike, or Eastbay.com?
Jul 16, 2008 at 1:35 am
didn’t care about the logo back in 89 when i had the original bred iv’s… don’t care about the logo now.
Jul 16, 2008 at 1:07 am
people may feel that the differences are subtle..and thats cool. but if anyone has there 99 retro, and has a pair of mars or a current 4, put one of each on at the same time and look down..you’ll see there is a huge difference in the shape and fit of the shoe,,,thats the biggest issue
Jul 16, 2008 at 12:39 am
It’s amazing how everyone complains about the Retros not resembling the previous version 100%, but I’m willing to bet my entire collection, that the next time these come out, everyone’s gonna be complaining “these look like crap compared to the ’08s”.
One more thing- I seriously don’t see why everyone is complaining about the Nike Air. People, it’s not coming back anytime soon. The company is trying to set itself apart from Nike. This would be a step backwards. Besides, I think the Jumpman w/o “Air” looks pretty good. If you really want Nike Air on your IVs, buy the ‘99 version or even better, the OGs.
Jul 16, 2008 at 12:16 am
fully prefer 99 jordan sign bashing on the 08 retros
Jul 16, 2008 at 12:09 am
they pretty dope still id cop just i dont want 19s im not gonna spend 310$…tough choice but i can live with it lol
Jul 15, 2008 at 11:43 pm
boo. this pack sucks.i got the 99 4’s, much betta and i gave my trash a** 19’s away.
Jul 15, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Easy Pass!!!!
They Look weird for some reason!!!!!!!!
I’m just going to cop the 3/20,11/12, & 5/18 packs!!!!
Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10 pm
What gets me it that the heel tab was specifically designed to have the NIKE AIR on it, that’s why its shaped that way. The jumpman with all that negative space just looks retarded.
Jul 15, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Classic shoe.
My footlocker was selling em already haha.
Heres what i see the diffrence in them
The 08′ shoe Paint looks cheaper then the 99′
The jumpman on the tounge is a slight diffrent color
99′ pair has better quality the 08′
(If you guys have’nt noticed.)
And The netting on the 99′ is alot better then the 08′
Jul 15, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Damn, that’s pretty messed up Toite3×3ninjah
I think about natural disaster claiming my kicks all the time.
Such a bad taste in my mouth, at just the thought.
Jul 15, 2008 at 10:34 pm
‘08 retros remind me of fakes. I’ll stick with my 99’s.
Jul 15, 2008 at 10:26 pm
if my house didnt burn down in 03 i’d still have 4 pairs of those 99 retros!!!! sigh!!!!
Jul 15, 2008 at 10:13 pm
i’d be pickin up this pack if i had a little more dough
Jul 15, 2008 at 9:47 pm
they destroyed a classic here..ill stick to my 99’s…
Jul 15, 2008 at 9:39 pm
there******
Jul 15, 2008 at 9:17 pm
I had a pair of the Black and Gray IV’s.. I wore them my 8th grade year of basketball and I still hold history their. I know Jordan said, “it’s no the shoes you wear it what you do in them.” I cant find my IV’s anywhere so I might think about geting this pack. Hopefully my friend will go in half with me because i have no need for the 19’s.
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:53 pm
I am so glad I own the 99′ retros…11.5 DS Perfect condition…..Still has that great shoe smell from 99 as well! I will never let them, even if somebody offered me some titanium XX3’s! True love for this shoe buddy! Only REAL jordanHeadz understand these!
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:50 pm
barryb said: at one point those retro ’99s were hated on and all of a suddened coveted when compared to these ‘08 retros
I don’t know WHERE in the HELL you got that info from, but please do tell. Because that colorway of the IV’s have ALWAYS been a highly sought after colorway, especially those, like myself, who actually WATCHED MJ play in them.
I sit and watch episodes of A Different World, and STILL get googly eyed over them, when ever Dwayne Wayne or Ron Johnson rocks them.
So where ever you got that idea from, it’s about as true as a folk tale or some urban legend.
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:38 pm
im picking mine up wednsday im selling the 19 for $150 any one interested email me asantiago24@aol.com
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Thanks for the side by side, Matt.
^I dont know if the 99 IV retro’s were ever “hated”…I’m pretty sure they sold out fairly quickly after releasing, but I think I understand what you’re trying to say.
I’ll have to feel/see a pair of these 08 IV’s in person before really making a true comparison with my own 99’s. I have the Military Blues/Mars Blackmon IV’s…and I’m sorry, they just don’t feel or look as good as the 99 retro. Just an opinion, not fact.
This is one of the greatest J’s/colorways…
Nike Air logo or not, you could still make Craig Ehlo & the Cavs look like chumps in these.
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:14 pm
comment #12? lol then look at comment #26 hahaha…OOWWNNNNED! hehe jks but hey wouldn’t THAT be something? ‘99, ‘08, and OG bred cement 4s comparison…oOOowweeee!!
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:08 pm
i agree with “herbanlegend” because you might lose value on your older retros and og’s. think about it.But i do think the shoe does look a little bit cheaper. and another thing is we are paying good money for shoes to be getting quality like this.I’m just saying
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:06 pm
they are different….but tha 08 IV still look pretty good
but i dont like 19s and the IVs are not that special to me anyway
i have enough bulls colorways anyway
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:04 pm
i live in canada, so lets say i got the cdp for $316 flat (which i did with a boy hookup =P) these 4s are still hot AS WELL AS THE 19s…basically that’s $158 per shoe…some haters up there wont get 19s n say they’d rather copp retro 99’s or OGs for 6-8 bills since they’re aready spending $316 (for argument sake)…that’s $300-$500 more just for the OG or ‘99 retro?! WOW. and at what condition and how likely will you even find such a pair?! pure stoppidness kids stop buying for the hype! at one point those retro ’99s were hated on and all of a suddened coveted when compared to these ‘08 retros…just like how ppl in ‘85 thought the bred 1s were whack and how ppl today thought the all star 23s were whack…what happend…ppl are gona bite their tounge’s after these sell out and regret not getting them! FOLLOWERS! lol
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Cats got to stop hating, these look almost identical. Minor changes can not be notice unless you stare all day and break ya neck! not gonna cop cuz I neva felt for IV, mines were 3s 5s 7s 11s 12s 13s and 18s for some reason!
Jul 15, 2008 at 7:18 pm
I think I’m going to pass on this package for the simple fact that I bought the white and all black 4s that released like 2 or more years ago. I regretted getting both of those from Modell’s and i will regret this one. I know i will catch heat for saying i wont buy them but i cant stand suede or nu buck J’s, they get lint all over them and they get mad dusty and fade. On top i feel like the material is cheap and they’re just too flimsy. Definitely not worth $310 in my opinion. Ill wait for the 3’s and 20’s. So with that said…that poor soul that normally wouldn’t of got his 11.5 or 12 can impress his girl and friends with his 4/19 CDP!
Jul 15, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Really can’t see to much difference.
Jul 15, 2008 at 7:10 pm
I already copped em from my local spot on the low. they look waaaaaaaaaaaaay better in person. take my word for it.
Jul 15, 2008 at 7:02 pm
watch nike make a true exact replica of one of the jordan lines and the Annoying Egotistical Jordan Heads are going to complain how their OGs went down in price because the retros look exactly the same.
lol.
these 4’s are fire. their is slight difference with the lace holders, the mesh angle, tongue and of course, the obvious, the jumpman, but i have no problems with that. I honestly think the lace holders and the jumpman look better than the 99 retro style.
Jul 15, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Them shoes is straight. Anybody know a (good) website that sells OG’s?
Jul 15, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Yeah the 08’s are still legit even though I think JB tried to do too much with em, but nothing can still top the 99’s or the OG’s.
Jul 15, 2008 at 6:14 pm
dope
Jul 15, 2008 at 5:57 pm
yeah im just gonna wait till 09 so i can cop my aj4 ls release l0l. yea hthe ‘99 4’s are better because 08 is when hatfield himself thought jb could stand on its own.
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:59 pm
I need these cause someone stole my last pair back in 99. Damn i was pissed.
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:37 pm
i dont c any difference beside the heel logo from these pix~
y ppl keep complainting about these retros?
i luv them~ cop foso
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:36 pm
to me i like the cp stunt but i hate that the two sneakers that come in each package have to equal 23.except for the 9s and 14s and the 11s and 12s due out in december,thses are not the most anticipated the 11s and 12s r.but the 4s is hot,not so much the 19s
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Nice. Unfortunately I’ll be in London before they release, which means if I wanted to buy the pack at the niketown or footlocker over in the UK, it would probably be significantly more expensive.
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:28 pm
these are flames, the biggest differences i see is that the shoe does look a little flimsier than the og’s but ima settle for em neways…also i heard the v’s in the cdp are gonna be the white/fire reds?? that info is on sneakernews.com
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:12 pm
The OG’s look better the CDP have thin cheap look to them!
The tongue look paper thin! OG anyday!!
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Hey Nicekicks the pics of the shoes look ridiculous, the Photography is Bannanas..
they look as if I was seeing them in person
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:59 pm
1999 black Jordan 4 retro sz 13 Dead stock!
Hit me!
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I just set the second pic from the bottom my as my background.I can’t wait to get mine in the mail any day now.
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:47 pm
PYS HAS THE CDP $429.99 WHO EVER PAY THAT MUCH IS NUTS
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:41 pm
BTW, any word on the colourway of the V’s in the 18/5 pack?
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:40 pm
favorite J’s of all time. gonna be a tough one to snag up…
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:40 pm
the netting on the 99s is glossy and the 08s its dull i might cop just because im afraid to use my 99s i dont like the 19s HEY MATT I AM A SIZE 11 I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I GET THEM IF YOU SILL NEED THEM
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:37 pm
bkbigjay, the 15 is actually a pretty cool shoe up close, it is super light and really comfortable for basketball.
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:19 pm
pat, i think the OG’s would run you a ”bit” more than 600. for god sake they have the true blue 3’s on FCNY for over 800, and those are only 7 years ago.
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:15 pm
what annoys me is when these self-proclaimed Jordan afficionados go on these threads to complain about how terrible the retro’s look and then brag about their extensive OG or older retro releases they have in their collections. not everyone is 35 years old and has had the necessary funds to begin collecting J’s since before Jordan’s 1st retirement. If yall have mad OGs and older retro’s good for you, n why waste people’s time telling them how terrible the new stuff is–not like u have any desire to expand the collection anyway
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Thanks for the comparison Matt.
Although I would have preferred the NA on back, the shoe still looks awesome.
The “Jumpman” alone on the back looks better than “Jumpman Air.”
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:09 pm
***99 retros not OGs…
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:06 pm
the new ones are straight but i’d spend $600 or so on the OGs before i spent $420 on the package for some ugly 19s to come with it that i will never wear…
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:03 pm
the only MAJOR diff. that you can see is the logos on the back.
other than that they are NEARLY almost similar.
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:48 pm
never really got into the bulls color way too much but the shoes are fresh my boy was telling me he will not touch the packs witha jordan symbol on it because nike air is better on the back which is true but I would have to get my hands on a pair to tell the differences one thing to see in high def it is another thing the notice thesubtle differences.
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Thanks for the comments everyone. I really don’t see anything wrong with these - just different from 1999.
If anyone is getting a CDP in sz 11 and don’t want the XIX’s hit me up please (info@nicekicks.com).
I got folded over yesterday for the IVs and I really like the XIXs, but no way was I going to pay $450 to my local spot for a CDP 5 days before release.
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:46 pm
i diid have the 22’s for ball, those were maaddd comfortable
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:45 pm
imshining yeah, me too, i would’ve prefered the white n gray 19’s too. im not the biggest fan of them, but i liked that colorway. if i get them these would be the highest numbered jordan i ever had.i had all of them 1-16 minus the 15’s
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:45 pm
What happened from 1999 to 2008 to make the shoe different? Do they redesign it to make it different on purpose? You would think it would be the same exact sneaker minus the NIKE AIR.
The 99′ retro’s are Classics. The CDP IV’s are the uglier twin brother.
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:43 pm
this should dispel the talk about them looking cheap. they are 90% the same. except for the lace tabs, the nike check on the back, an on the bottom. they are close. so please stop saying they look cheap or fake. i have no problem with these. i just dont like how both shoes are the same colors
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:38 pm
i dont like ‘em, they need to get them cut the way they were when the first came out
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Same thing, it’s not a big deal but I’m not coppin em anyway. I would’ve liked more if it was the grey 19s and da choco chip 4’s
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:34 pm
It’s a def cop for these! But I do HATE the 19’s. Owell. It’s a love/hate pack for sure. I like how the 99′ jumpman on the tounge is fit and the 08′ jumpman got himself a little gut! You callin MJ out on that or what?! Haha!
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:33 pm
thanks for the pics. you make em look better than anyother I’ve seen. give this guy some nike stock
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“they both look good i see the little differences….but will someone plz tell me whut the big deal is about it having Nike Air on the back….its just text words/symbol… It has nothing to do wit design.”
my point exactly
if that one lil thing is makin u not want em dhen dont buy em
problem solved
Jul 15, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Seeing the comparison i am now convinced that some people are WAY too obsessed with having it be EXACTLY like the OGs. It’s essentially the same thing, both r JB-produced and the visible differences r minute.
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:59 pm
they both look good i see the little differences….but will someone plz tell me whut the big deal is about it having Nike Air on the back….its just text words/symbol… It has nothing to do wit design.
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I little but you can’t really tell both are sikk wit it
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:52 pm
they both look da same. even though i like otha colorways of da 4’s betta. n oo yea, i like da Jumpman betta
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:51 pm
The way it seems to me is that these are very minor changes, but nothing really to get upset sbout anyways. If someone thinks that those little changes are enough not to get them then they just dont have the money to get them, so they hate. But good job JB on the classic!!
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:50 pm
dizzamn!
Matt you and the Matt who photographed the mcflys got some crazy camera skills. I was actually going to pass on these 4s, but after seeing the high def pics, I am going to cop this weekend for sure.
Posts like these is what makes nice kicks the best!
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:49 pm
I mean I like the 4’s, but come on now, three something for one pair of shoe that you would rock, The 19’s… no commit I’ll pass.
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:48 pm
i gotta say dey fire but da og’s look better cuz of da nike logo
ITS DA TRUTH
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:45 pm
That first and last photo is INSANE! I love focusing in on the Nike Air logo and leaving the jumpman blurred. Very impressive.
For the record I still have a pair of ’99s on ice so no need for this package
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I like ‘em more now After this Thanks Nicekicks
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:42 pm
man those kicks sick.
Jul 15, 2008 at 1:39 pm
1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But really they look the same to me.
P.S. Kudos to whoever owns those ’99s cuz they kept em in terrific shape! I’m gone……….