The Good, The Bad, The Fugly
Posted by Nick Engvall | May 24, 2009This week there was plenty to choose from for The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly. A lot of dope kicks made an appearance, from Yeezy’s to J’s. Not to mention all the fresh running silhouettes that are appearing just in time for summer. Not to mention those Flight 45’s that received the timeless Command Force colorway. The Bad and Fugly were almost too easy this week though.
Take a look at this weeks choices by clicking here.
The Good

The first time these Nubuck 12’s dropped, the sneaker game was slightly caught off guard. The price of over $200, the online only release, and packaged with other gear, were all firsts for Jordans. Nowadays, sneakerheads are somehow used to paying top dollar for packages (see this week’s The Bad).
Hard to believe that five years has already passed since these first dropped. After seeing these kicks in the photo studio, it’s hard to not say these are “The Good” for this week. Wouldn’t you agree?
See the whole photo feature by clicking here.


Nov 9, 2009 at 9:53 pm
i cop all my sneaks at flight club because i dont know any other good places besides hoh
Oct 5, 2009 at 10:05 pm
bought 3m pair off flightclub for 150
DOPE
Jun 2, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Man I Want the louis Vs so bad i wish they were avaible right now. I like how they look and will keep my True Religions from sagging on the ground (You know those arent cheap) I mean 800+ i already got the monogram montasorouis back pack that cost me 1300 I want the louis vuitton christopher backpack but cant find that. I DON’T JUST WANT THE SHOES BECAUSE KANYES NAMES ON THEM I WANT THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE LOUIS VUITTON.
May 29, 2009 at 2:33 pm
i think people really slept on these mainly because they didnt want the red pair, but in the future the value of these will increase and someone out there will want the red ones
i only paid 216 for the whole thing
May 27, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Copped the pack for $235!
May 26, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Beauty is within the eye of the beholder NewJerseyGiant. You state they ugly and I respect that. But I have to bring out I do have a decent collection of V’s…Grape V’s and Fire Red V’s but after seeing them in person…I could not resist. I was in love. And I don’t have the funds like that for them but I really like the choice of materials and colors JB selected for these joints. No more V’s for me though. Should be enuff to hold me off…for now.
May 26, 2009 at 5:20 pm
copped the toro bravo pack deciding whether i shood sell the red suedes…..i mean im only 15 i need to get bank off these red suedes to get more kicks =\
May 26, 2009 at 2:32 pm
nike killed me this week!!! the “toro bravo ” pack & the og barkleys in the same week!!! damn thats 450 in week.. not 2 mention this summer has more heat droppin
May 26, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I will repeat this again…..The Toro Bravo pack is butt cheeks. Most people bought them to say i have jordans on my feet and has no purpose. The other actual sneaker heads that bought these to add to the collection i can understand if you didn’t have any AJ V’s but this pack should only be $200 tops after seeing them in person.
May 26, 2009 at 11:58 am
this suckz cock
May 26, 2009 at 11:09 am
Hypebeast people suck, the game some how got twisted by the likes of you. You never buy shoes for other people to prove something to yourself, you get the shoes for your love of shoe game.
May 26, 2009 at 9:39 am
How doses every body have the 12’s, there not out yet.
May 26, 2009 at 9:06 am
^^^
I had my 12’s since the May 2 and I’m on my second pair. Getting your money up is cool, but getting your Nike contact up is better…Holla!
May 26, 2009 at 8:54 am
yall need to get ya money up i got three raging bulls packs and two pair of 12s—ha ha hahaha
May 26, 2009 at 3:29 am
One good thing about working at foolocker, DISCOUNT!
Thats all ima say!
Peace
May 25, 2009 at 9:48 pm
BTW those Reeboks has a similar design to the Foams IMHO. I think if you change the color it would look ok. They do not look that fugly! Beauty is skin deep. LOL.
May 25, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Correction XX1’s not XX2’s
May 25, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I will have to disagree w/ the bad. NiceKicks calls this the bad cuz of the price?? Then the Yeezy’s should be the bad cuz of the price! Yea separately the V’s cost 135 but this pack is well worth it. Plus I like the box. LOL. And YES I did BUY this pack. I love the red suedes which reminds of the XX2’s that I also have and still in DS condition. I love the black 3M material simply cuz they shine when the light hits it, kinda like a diamond in the rough. LOL. I really did’t have the funds like that but these were too good to pass up. Those red suedes scream LUXURY for some reason.
May 25, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Hey guys anyone know if I will be abe to use my footlocker merchandise credit for the 12’s?? was not able to for the toro bravo…..please let me know
May 25, 2009 at 8:30 pm
This pack should not be the bad it should be the good I mean I got. The 12s in the package I mean people saying its bad cause they couldint afford it that’s dumb I mean wen that happens find a friend in go half with em cause I no there was people that on liked the red one then there was people that like the 3m ones so yea
May 25, 2009 at 8:18 pm
i bought the toro bravo package. its deff worth it for 2 pairs of raw kicks especially the red ones. i admit it was a bit too much money but how can u resist on these kickss
May 25, 2009 at 5:52 pm
310 for the toro bravos is absolutely worth it! Two blazing pair of kicks that use a great choice of quality materials. And just copped!!!
May 25, 2009 at 3:13 pm
^^^akoo The XXI red suedes dont compare to this shoe b/c the V is a classic man!! Anyway, because I was one of the dummies that bought 5 packs last year, I didn’t c any problem spending that on this pack. This pack was better than at least 5 packs from last year. I really don’t know why nicekicks put this in the bad! Do they they think that JB should have split them? Are they upset that JB said no returns? Those two things right there make these “bad” more than the shoes! The shoes are fire!
May 25, 2009 at 2:21 pm
i already decided way back that 310 is not worth it and for most of us around 500 off of ebay def not worth it. Besides i picked up the pair of 21 suede reds that are very similar so no point in pickin these up
May 25, 2009 at 1:52 pm
ALL OF YOU MUST bE sOmE SqUaREs!!!!. Or YOu MuST bE OLD!!!!!!! Foamsites are F-ugly!!!.. I’m still in high school I’M 17!!!!! & yes I still live with my parents!!! Pay no RENT .. NO JOB!!!! & I’ve been a spoiled sneakerhead ever since I remember !!!!!… Yes I get shoes just to let ninjas know what’s good..I got the 2 yeezys that came out & will cop the net/ net… Just cuz I’m cool/spoiled..!!!! Skinny jeans.expensive sneakers from flightclub. Just to make me look cool !..& that hype gear..with LV damier belt.& gucci backpack.& pink g-shock!… Hahah & getting my pre ordered 2010 SS camaro this June!!! Juiced!..Y’all already knowin tho bruh!!! Get active!!! So on that Jerkin movement!!! You a jerk!!hahaha
May 25, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Yeezy I - retail $215+tax
Yeezy II - retail $215+tax
Toro pack - $260 (seriously)
Me = BROKE BUT HAPPY
May 25, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I dropped my $309 on the Jordan pack. Got them from Eastbay, but It’s two number 5’s I wanted. If they would have released them separately, I would have still copped both. I think JB should go back to dropping two color ways on the same day. That way people can choose one or both. JB use to do that all the time and both shoes had no problem selling out.
May 25, 2009 at 12:49 pm
^haha. but ne way i copped the pack. love the V’s
May 25, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I was gona split da pack half n half wit my friend 4 da black ones but den wen I got da pack I decided 2 keep both
Yess!!
May 25, 2009 at 12:05 pm
well given the fact i baught 6 packages i gotta say da 5’s are crack and whoever didnt cop em is gunna trully regret it just like the people who didnt get the first DMP….any need any sizes for the toro bravos 9-10.5 halla at me on ISS callie781
May 25, 2009 at 11:07 am
I got my pack its not worth the 310 but thank god for foot locker gift cards knocked off $100 mwahahahahaha
May 25, 2009 at 10:36 am
All these kids talking about money and how they can buy this and that….but you probably live at home with your parents and pay no bills. Honestly, nobody cares what you have. Just rock it. Why does anyone need to know about your Foams when they’re not even mentioned in the topic…? I remember when dudes bought kicks because they liked them….not because people would think you’re cool for having them. Get a new hobby….better yet, get a life.
May 25, 2009 at 10:25 am
I co co sign with jay. There way too much hype for shoes that should have been Half the price. Now they selling for 700? Get the hell out of here. 700 price is only for og jays not some rapper shoe.
May 25, 2009 at 9:57 am
I got the packk madd freshh!! i went half on the pack i wasent realy feelin the red one. But when i seen them i was like damm i should of goten the whole pack lol but its whatever. Im in there for the 12’s this weekend!!
May 25, 2009 at 9:37 am
And they are nothing but 3/5 hybrids anyway. But you hypebeast dont hate fusions that much because they got your favorite entertainers name on it. SMDH
May 25, 2009 at 9:36 am
Co-sign with jay.
Only followers would purchase such crap. just because your favorite “rapper” (term used loosely) made some kicks all these sheep go buy em. I was born in 79 and grew up on Air Jordans as a part of my life. If you growing up on Kanye then you must be a lil boy still. People like me dont care a bout a rappers shoes. $200? I wouldnt even buy Kanyes bootleg CD for the 5. Be a leader, not a follower!
May 25, 2009 at 9:02 am
these most definatly are the most hidious shoes i’ve ever seen!
May 25, 2009 at 7:36 am
man yall is crazy the yezzy is like what 215 that is almost the cost of the package for one shoe dont say the 5’s are bad cus of the price tag of the yezzys they are only a temporary tred that will fade away just like the bapes greedy genius ect. and those lv shoes are very ugly
May 25, 2009 at 5:49 am
I would rather drop the 300 for 2 pairs of Jordans then 200 for one pair of fugly Yeezies
May 25, 2009 at 2:49 am
Shoulda sold that pack separate..!
it was hard to pass up on deez..
but they were a lil steep for my budget right now..
i liked both shoes..
but if they were separate for like 150-160
i woulda copped the red suede boyz!
May 25, 2009 at 2:46 am
got the pack for 270, not really feeling the black ones. hopefully i can get em off for at least $200 so it will be 70 for the red ones well worth it
May 25, 2009 at 2:09 am
Much respect to NewJerseyGiant also! Word to my muva!
May 25, 2009 at 2:08 am
copped the toro bravo pack for $230 =]
May 25, 2009 at 2:06 am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Cholly Da Beat Man
May 24, 2009 at 3:07 pm
@ Think - you just kep shopping at Marshall’s for your shoes and rock them Fred Myers like only you know how. Don’t worry about what/why other people do what they do. zi hope you were just tryna be funny cuz I almost laughed.
1st off Cholly, your name “Da Beat Man” explains a whole lot. I got some ice for that wrist you be wearing out! 2nd, the fact that you mentioned buying sneakers from Marshall’s tells me where you head is, step yo game up, and I’m not familiar with Fred Myers, never heard of them. 3rd, Im serious. I hope you did laugh because you gon get an ulcer if you keep talkin greasy, I got a big strap that’ll light up your sole like a pair of Air Yeezys. Which I own by the way plus much more heat that I bought because I personally liked the shoe, not to show off to other people. And lock the door next time so you mama dont catch you “Da Beat Man”!
May 25, 2009 at 1:55 am
and willie_mcfly22 getta clue started presellin the 12’s last thursday…But they will be gettin the toro bravo pack on monday or tuesday cause their sipment didnt get in yet…
May 25, 2009 at 1:53 am
Hey Nick Engvall i got my pack from footaction and the 12’s from GETTA CLUE….And yes u can return the TORO BRAVO pack u just need to send it to the footaction warehouse thats all…not the shop u got them from…
May 25, 2009 at 12:54 am
i was shokced on the low turn out for the pack..im coppin the XII’s too..might hit up getta clue in sac to see if they stil got em or I’ll jus wait til sat….hopefullyfolks is sleepin on those as well
May 24, 2009 at 10:37 pm
i agree with this week’s decisions. the Nubuck 12’s are nice, but i like the Toro Pack better. and they look wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better in real life. i might cop those, if i don’t get the Net Yeezy’s in two weeks lol.
and those Reebok’s look like a spaceship lmao
May 24, 2009 at 10:19 pm
also I know the pack was considered to be a limited edition but it seemed a lot of stores had them.What about the 12’s are they a genereal release????
May 24, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Had a $160.00 credit to footlocker went in at like 7:30am on Sat to use towards the pack they said no way.. I was like I can’t even use a credit from your store???? makes no sense anyway anyone know if it will be the same deal for 12’s???
May 24, 2009 at 9:35 pm
I copped the pearl foams, they r very comfortable & made wit better quality than the package! The nubuck 12 cost me 140 & their str8 HOT!
May 24, 2009 at 9:33 pm
fo real peeple… the way u guyz be talkin sounds like all yall in mad debt… u guys alredy no how much yall gon b spendn dis year cuz of all da releases! so get yo bred ready and quit complainen bout da money issue and go get yallselfz 2nd or 3rd jobs!
May 24, 2009 at 9:15 pm
YEAH I dropped $3 bills on the “Toro Bravo” pack but I plan to make some of it back after I slang the Red suedes.
May 24, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Kripsy ur retarded why spend 190 on jus one paid wen u could jus got both for 120 more
310 aint dat much money I work a parttime job lol nd I get 300 every week nd i’m only 19
May 24, 2009 at 8:21 pm
passed on the pack werent feelen the suade ones anyway i got all my cash put aside for a pair of nubucks and the yeezys
May 24, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Wow, Nicekicks. You obviously didn’t read ANY of the feedback on the Iversons. A lot of people thought they were straight up fire!!!
May 24, 2009 at 7:57 pm
i skipped out on the package, not really feeling the red ones but at least ill be copping the nubucks
May 24, 2009 at 7:32 pm
the red ones suck i saw them in person but i wanted the black ones too bad they coudln’t sell them seperate like the did in europe oh well at least im getting the nubucks SATURDAY!!
May 24, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Wanted the red only…but there’s no way I’m dropping $300 on this pack. I may be a sneakerhead but I also have a wife, a kid and a house payment…that’s just too much $$ for me right now.
May 24, 2009 at 6:54 pm
those reeboks are completely ugly but not that great either
May 24, 2009 at 6:44 pm
I split the pack, nd I’m a wait 4 the other 12s that comin out
May 24, 2009 at 4:47 pm
i did not get the pack but i dropped 190$ for the red Vs.
May 24, 2009 at 4:00 pm
One thing about those foams - they comfy as hell and u cant deny that. Waaay more than J’s
May 24, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I rather pay 310 for a jordan pack den 200 for some dumass foamposites.idk why I bought dem I should jus sell dem..pretty much no one my age knows wat dey are
May 24, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I regret buyin da eggplants dey wack..all I kno is wen I wear dem people break dey necks..idk why
I kno ima have no regrets for buyin da toro bravo pack or da 12s….wow 1000 in a year I’ve spent 1500 in a year on kicks nd still bout clothes to match each sneaker….but u probably da kinda dude dat wears white tees everyday lol i’m sure others do dat too
May 24, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Who works 2 jobs jus to buy sneakers …dat some loser/fiend sh!t
I work one job nd can afford to buy dis pack sh!t to match it..but I guess mcdonalds don’t pay dat good
May 24, 2009 at 3:40 pm
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May 24, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Think About This!
May 24, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Stop going for broke and all this bawlshizer! Get the pair of kicks that mean something to you, dont spend your lunch money just because you want to “turn somebody’s head”! WFT for, please give me a good reason why you buy shoes for someone else to look at!!!!!!!
There is some truth to that. I’m not a Jordan person. I’m strictly a Nike Air Max Person and i would rather buy a pair of air max’s $89-$140 than buy a ugly pair of jordans just to let people know i have a jumpman on my shoe. The majority of the time people know the sneakers are ugly in the back of their mind but for the simple reason there is a jumpman logo on the hell and tongue they are ballin. The toro bravo pack is butt cheeks.
May 24, 2009 at 3:17 pm
and i forgot to mention that I only really wanted the black 3m… wasn’t too into the red suede. Might end up selling the whole pack though due to wanting to put it somewhere else
Decisions like this is tought. I may do extra hours at work, but no second job though. my life is WAY too busy for that lol
May 24, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I think the 310 price is a little much considering that the AJ V by themselves cost 125 dollars originally, unless I am wrong. Even if I am wrong, AJV do not cost 155 dollars each.
This was instant profit for Brand Jordan. Probably the last one for me until the Space Jams come out.
May 24, 2009 at 3:07 pm
@ Think - you just kep shopping at Marshall’s for your shoes and rock them Fred Myers like only you know how. Don’t worry about what/why other people do what they do. zi hope you were just tryna be funny cuz I almost laughed.
May 24, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Stop going for broke and all this bawlshizer! Get the pair of kicks that mean something to you, dont spend your lunch money just because you want to “turn somebody’s head”! WFT for, please give me a good reason why you buy shoes for someone else to look at!!!!!!!
May 24, 2009 at 2:56 pm
12’s is nice,but its only been 5 yrs not even classics in no way and i do have em.Both 5’s have never even been seen b4. Ya’ll got this one wrong,should’nt even be goin on price,cuz plenty kicks is overpriced!
May 24, 2009 at 2:51 pm
copped the toro bravo pack. its a good pack. and i copped the nubuck XII. those are straight heat.
May 24, 2009 at 2:41 pm
PS - I doo-doo’d on some young cat who thought he was doin it big with the black/yellow dubz today when I killed him with the eggplants.
May 24, 2009 at 2:37 pm
This year I spent $200 on the Eggplant Pennys, $310 on the TB-V’s, got $175 stashed for the nubucks. $685 for 4 joints in 6 months. Prolly get some white kicks for the summer then I’m done for a minute. Lookin ahead to the True Blue III’s, Space Jams, and maybe some half cents later in the year. I’m 50/50 on the XII’s later this year since the Nubucks kill em all. That’ll turn out to about $1,000 (+/-) for the year on about 7 joints. Who knows what else might pop up but $1,000 in 1 year ain’t too bad.
May 24, 2009 at 2:37 pm
lol….funny thing is…i went to champs and they had em
and they only sold two sizes that whole day…they still had mad big sizes left
my boy said u cant put em on layaway, cant even try em on, cant even open the box
smfh….im not fxckin w/ it
May 24, 2009 at 2:32 pm
yea i agree $300 is alot to shell out for a package seeing that the Dmp 1 and the old love/new love package was jus $200 but at the same time it is helping the economy…i guess
May 24, 2009 at 2:30 pm
have fun witt it rumors have it that the red 5s suede will bleed thats why they use two pieces of tissue paper
May 24, 2009 at 2:13 pm
i found someone to spilt the pack with so i didnt spend $310 HA!
May 24, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Bought the toro pack at training camp, was really looking forward to getting the foamposite but missed out when they changed the release date
May 24, 2009 at 1:59 pm
lol yall saving yall bread for the Yeezys, dont front!!! lol yall dont even like the Net/nets, but yall mad yall aint get the first 2 color ways, so yall feel yall gotta get these last colors huh? lmao good luck wit dat
May 24, 2009 at 1:55 pm
why dont jordan sell toro separately?
May 24, 2009 at 1:52 pm
how are the toro’s the bad both of the j’s are nice jus the uglys got to stay
May 24, 2009 at 1:46 pm
No second job needed here. And yes, they were bought. Yes the 12’s will be too. (my first release ones have seen hard work on court) Thankfully my company is one of the few that is still thriving in tough times. It’s a good time right now to be in the medical field. People don’t stop getting sick!
May 24, 2009 at 1:45 pm
got the pack for $300 flat. after getting them i wasn’t feeling them. going to end up selling them to some friends….
May 24, 2009 at 1:18 pm
i got the 5s and niccas are turning heads on the cool. and i have a second job just for da J’s and the 95’s man yall sleeping on them 95’s so wake up kids
May 24, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I like the Ivo’s a little remember the silver foamposites straight of the kitchen but they hott imma play ball wit my Ivo 13
May 24, 2009 at 1:04 pm
no me its just to much money rite now and lm not a cheap and lm not feeling this package anyway l will what for the 12 now those joints are hot.
May 24, 2009 at 12:59 pm
people sleeping on the toro pack. I just walked in at niketown, no lines, nobody was there. Hopefully its like that for the Nubucks as well.
May 24, 2009 at 12:55 pm
i Scooped em up the pack i mean
May 24, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Toro Bravo pack is not the Bad!, there shouldn’t be a bad.. lol.. and I coped the 12’s today!! yes indeed..!!
May 24, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Good to hear Getta Clue is still alive- I hit that spot regularly when I’m in Sac.
I didn’t know you could return packs- especially from smaller shops.
May 24, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Thought it was no returns on this package?
i dropped retail on these. & my spot couldn’t stress enough that there were no returns whats so ever final sale.
May 24, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Got my 12’s on friday 22nd at Getta Clue Sacramento….And yes i got the Toro Bravo pack as well which i think i will be returning…